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Tornado15550: Removed Haali from the guide. With the inclusion of ordered chapters support, along with many other benefits (such as hardware acceleration) in LAV Filters, there is no real benefit in using Haali anymore.

2013-06-24T21:07:41Z

Removed Haali from the guide. With the inclusion of ordered chapters support, along with many other benefits (such as hardware acceleration) in LAV Filters, there is no real benefit in using Haali anymore.

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	=== Step One: Downloading and Installation ===		=== Step One: Downloading and Installation ===

	# Download and install the latest version of [http://xhmikosr.1f0.de/mpc-hc/ MPC-HC] (you want the .exe version for an installer) '''Note: Get the 32-bit version (called x86) ~~ONLY!~~ The 64-bit version is incompatible with madVR. It is however, possible for the 64-bit version to function when the 64-bit LAV filters are installed.'''		# Download and install the latest version of [http://xhmikosr.1f0.de/mpc-hc/ MPC-HC] (you want the .exe version for an installer) '''Note: Get the 32-bit version (called x86). The 64-bit version is incompatible with madVR. It is however, possible for the 64-bit version to function when the 64-bit LAV filters are installed.'''
	# Install the [http://xhmikosr.1f0.de/lavfilters/ LAV Filters]. These are necessary for decoding video and audio. You need to select the Splitter as well ~~if you don’t want to use Haali, otherwise you have to install Haali manually. (See image to right)~~		# Install the [http://xhmikosr.1f0.de/lavfilters/ LAV Filters]. These are necessary for decoding video and audio. You need to select the Splitter as well.
	~~# Obtain and install the latest version of [https://customers.corecodec~~.~~com/downloads.php Haali’s Media Splitter]~~
	# '''Note: You can skip this step if your PC isn’t very powerful!''' Download the latest version of [http://madshi.net/madVR.zip madVR] and extract it anywhere you like. Run install.bat inside the folder. DO NOT DELETE THE FOLDER AFTERWARDS, madVR lives inside it and does not copy itself anywhere else. Move it somewhere sensible before installing, for example C:\Program Files\madVR.		# '''Note: You can skip this step if your PC isn’t very powerful!''' Download the latest version of [http://madshi.net/madVR.zip madVR] and extract it anywhere you like. Run install.bat inside the folder. DO NOT DELETE THE FOLDER AFTERWARDS, madVR lives inside it and does not copy itself anywhere else. Move it somewhere sensible before installing, for example C:\Program Files\madVR.
	'''Note: Make sure you’re ''logged'' in as an Administrator when running this! Do ''not'' right click and "run as admin", log in as admin and run it ''normally''!'''		'''Note: Make sure you’re ''logged'' in as an Administrator when running this! Do ''not'' right click and "run as admin", log in as admin and run it ''normally''!'''
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	# Under Playback, enable “Auto-load subtitles”: [http://wiki.bakabt.me/images/a/a8/Subtitles.png Image]		# Under Playback, enable “Auto-load subtitles”: [http://wiki.bakabt.me/images/a/a8/Subtitles.png Image]
	# Under Subtitles, make sure “Allow animation when buffering” is enabled, and “Maximum texture resolution” is set to “Desktop”: [http://wiki.bakabt.me/images/0/06/Resolution.png Image]		# Under Subtitles, make sure “Allow animation when buffering” is enabled, and “Maximum texture resolution” is set to “Desktop”: [http://wiki.bakabt.me/images/0/06/Resolution.png Image]
	# Under Output, choose “madVR” as renderer: '''Note: If you skipped madVR, or you’re experiencing lagging, frame drops or poor performance in general, set this to “EVR Custom Pres.”~~, “Haali Renderer”~~ or “VMR-9 (renderless)” instead – try them in that order until you find one that works.''' [http://wiki.bakabt.me/images/6/66/Renderer.png Image]		# Under Output, choose “madVR” as renderer: '''Note: If you skipped madVR, or you’re experiencing lagging, frame drops or poor performance in general, set this to “EVR Custom Pres.” or “VMR-9 (renderless)” instead – try them in that order until you find one that works.''' [http://wiki.bakabt.me/images/6/66/Renderer.png Image]
	# Make sure the LAV Video is selected as default decoder. If in doubt, go to external filters, choose “Add Filter”, select LAV Video Decoder and switch it to “Prefer”: [http://wiki.bakabt.me/images/9/99/Lavprefer.png Image]		# Make sure the LAV Video is selected as default decoder. If in doubt, go to external filters, choose “Add Filter”, select LAV Video Decoder and switch it to “Prefer”: [http://wiki.bakabt.me/images/9/99/Lavprefer.png Image]
	# After making the above changes, restart MPC-HC and play back any file. You should notice the madVR icon in the system tray. Right click this to access the settings: [[File: Madvrsettings.png\|center]]		# After making the above changes, restart MPC-HC and play back any file. You should notice the madVR icon in the system tray. Right click this to access the settings: [[File: Madvrsettings.png\|center]]

Tornado15550: Improved the flow of the first sentence.

2012-07-22T01:30:54Z

Improved the flow of the first sentence.

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	=Hi10P=		=Hi10P=
	High 10 Profile (Hi10P), also ~~just~~ known as 10-bit~~. The~~ newest standard for fansubbed and encoded releases.		High 10 Profile (Hi10P), also known as 10-bit, is the newest standard for fansubbed and encoded releases.

Tornado15550: Updated LAV filters link to the latest version.

2012-07-22T01:20:39Z

Updated LAV filters link to the latest version.

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	=== Step One: Downloading and Installation ===		=== Step One: Downloading and Installation ===

	# Download and install the latest version of [http://xhmikosr.1f0.de/~~index.php?folder=bXBjLWhj~~ MPC-HC] (you want the .exe version for an installer) '''Note: Get the 32-bit version (called x86) ONLY! The 64-bit version is incompatible with madVR ~~and will not~~ function ~~at all~~.'''		# Download and install the latest version of [http://xhmikosr.1f0.de/mpc-hc/ MPC-HC] (you want the .exe version for an installer) '''Note: Get the 32-bit version (called x86) ONLY! The 64-bit version is incompatible with madVR. It is however, possible for the 64-bit version to function when the 64-bit LAV filters are installed.'''
	# Install the [http://~~files~~.1f0.de/~~lavf~~/~~LAVFilters-0.40.exe~~ LAV Filters]. These are necessary for decoding video and audio. You need to select the Splitter as well if you don’t want to use Haali, otherwise you have to install Haali manually. (See image to right)		# Install the [http://xhmikosr.1f0.de/lavfilters/ LAV Filters]. These are necessary for decoding video and audio. You need to select the Splitter as well if you don’t want to use Haali, otherwise you have to install Haali manually. (See image to right)
	# Obtain and install the latest version of [https://customers.corecodec.com/downloads.php Haali’s Media Splitter]		# Obtain and install the latest version of [https://customers.corecodec.com/downloads.php Haali’s Media Splitter]
	# '''Note: You can skip this step if your PC isn’t very powerful!''' Download the latest version of [http://madshi.net/madVR.zip madVR] and extract it anywhere you like. Run install.bat inside the folder. DO NOT DELETE THE FOLDER AFTERWARDS, madVR lives inside it and does not copy itself anywhere else. Move it somewhere sensible before installing, for example C:\Program Files\madVR.		# '''Note: You can skip this step if your PC isn’t very powerful!''' Download the latest version of [http://madshi.net/madVR.zip madVR] and extract it anywhere you like. Run install.bat inside the folder. DO NOT DELETE THE FOLDER AFTERWARDS, madVR lives inside it and does not copy itself anywhere else. Move it somewhere sensible before installing, for example C:\Program Files\madVR.

Mrdkreka: /* How NOT to play back Hi10P content */

2012-07-15T16:15:14Z

How NOT to play back Hi10P content

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	=== How '''NOT''' to play back Hi10P content ===		=== How '''NOT''' to play back Hi10P content ===

	* CoreAVC in CUDA mode, DXVA, LAV CUVID ~~as well as the stable versions of VLC and ffdshow do not support Hi10P at the time of writing~~, ~~because~~ no graphics cards support 10-bit decoding		* CoreAVC in CUDA mode, DXVA and LAV CUVID, since no graphics cards support 10-bit decoding
	* The [http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/SVN%20builds%20by%20clsid/generic%20builds/ SVN build] of ffdshow-tryouts [http://ffdshow-tryout.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ffdshow-tryout?view=revision&revision=3954 now supports Hi10P]
	* Note: Using VSFilter (aka DirectVobSub) with Hi10P requires dithering material down to 8-bit first, which can introduce some quantization inaccuracies later on and also uses incorrect levels due to a bug in swscale (when using CCCP/ffdshow or LAV to dither)		* Note: Using VSFilter (aka DirectVobSub) with Hi10P requires dithering material down to 8-bit first, which can introduce some quantization inaccuracies later on and also uses incorrect levels due to a bug in swscale (when using CCCP/ffdshow or LAV to dither)
	* However, not using VSFilter means that anamorphic releases which compensate for the stretching (e.g. 704x480 DVD releases) may give broken signs typesetting and stretched-looking subs. Two branches of VSfilter ([http://code.google.com/p/threaded-vsfilter/ threaded-vsfilter] and [http://code.google.com/p/xy-vsfilter/ xy-vsfilter]) will handle these releases correctly, and they also support 10-bit input and output, meaning you don't dither using ffdshow or LAV. These two branches are still in development though , and may exhibit bugs.		* However, not using VSFilter means that anamorphic releases which compensate for the stretching (e.g. 704x480 DVD releases) may give broken signs typesetting and stretched-looking subs. Two branches of VSfilter ([http://code.google.com/p/threaded-vsfilter/ threaded-vsfilter] and [http://code.google.com/p/xy-vsfilter/ xy-vsfilter]) will handle these releases correctly, and they also support 10-bit input and output, meaning you don't dither using ffdshow or LAV. These two branches are still in development though , and may exhibit bugs.

Reesebiz: Removed Wiki Expansion Project at top. Finished article

2012-04-04T04:58:17Z

Removed Wiki Expansion Project at top. Finished article

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	~~<div style="font-size:90%; border:none; margin:0; padding:.1em; color:#c06c8d;">'''[http://forums.bakabt.me/index.php?topic=32730.0 Wiki Expansion Project]'''</div>~~
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	=Hi10P=		=Hi10P=
	High 10 Profile (Hi10P), also just known as 10-bit. The newest standard for fansubbed and encoded releases.		High 10 Profile (Hi10P), also just known as 10-bit. The newest standard for fansubbed and encoded releases.

Reesebiz: Added ffdshow section

2012-03-27T22:36:37Z

Added ffdshow section

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	As of CCCP version 2011-11-11, CCCP included LAV filters as an alternative to ffdshow-tryouts.		As of CCCP version 2011-11-11, CCCP included LAV filters as an alternative to ffdshow-tryouts.
	[[File:Lavinstall.png\|thumb\|right\|Setup - LAV Install]]		[[File:Lavinstall.png\|thumb\|right\|Setup - LAV Install]]
	=== Step Zero: Prerequisites ===		=== Step Zero: Prerequisites ===

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	:2. Finally, check the “Filters” list (in the right click menu of MPC-HC during playback) and confirm that LAV Video is being used:		:2. Finally, check the “Filters” list (in the right click menu of MPC-HC during playback) and confirm that LAV Video is being used:
	[[File:Filtersf.png\|center]]		[[File:Filtersf.png\|center]]


			== (Bonus/Optional) Adding ffdshow ==
			[[File:ffdshow.png\|thumb\|right\|Setup - Ffdshow Configuration]]

			Adding ffdshow will allow you to use its audio decoder (for filters + a more customizable mixer), as well as using it for formats other than AVC1 (H.264), VC1 and MPEG-2. Especially for older 480p and worse content (which isn’t likely to be encoded in AVC1), you can use the ffdshow deblocking or debanding filters to attempt to improve image quality this way.
			# Install the latest [http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/SVN%20builds%20by%20clsid/generic%20builds/ ffdshow-tryouts]
			# Open ffdshow’s settings dialog, under “DirectShow control” set the merit to normal: (To get here, just go to Start -> All Programs -> ffdshow -> Video decoder configuration)
			# Double check Step Three to make sure ffdshow doesn’t touch your H.264 video

Reesebiz at 14:16, 12 December 2011

2011-12-12T14:16:38Z

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	# After making the above changes, restart MPC-HC and play back any file. You should notice the madVR icon in the system tray. Right click this to access the settings: [[File: Madvrsettings.png\|center]]		# After making the above changes, restart MPC-HC and play back any file. You should notice the madVR icon in the system tray. Right click this to access the settings: [[File: Madvrsettings.png\|center]]
	# Once inside, disable the “fullscreen exclusive mode” under Rendering -> General Settings. I recommend leaving this off unless you are having playback problems, because it prevents you from taking screenshots and makes the transition to fullscreen very ugly (It also messes up MPC-HC’s interface): [http://wiki.bakabt.me/index.php/File:Fullscreenex.png Image]		# Once inside, disable the “fullscreen exclusive mode” under Rendering -> General Settings. I recommend leaving this off unless you are having playback problems, because it prevents you from taking screenshots and makes the transition to fullscreen very ugly (It also messes up MPC-HC’s interface): [http://wiki.bakabt.me/index.php/File:Fullscreenex.png Image]

			=== Step Three: Confirmation: ===

			:1. Play back a Hi10P file and use '''Ctrl+J''' to enter the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-screen_display OSD]: (If it doesn’t show up or looks completely different, doublecheck output configuration)

			{\| border="1" cellpadding="2" align="center"
			! scope="col" width="50" \| Correct
			! scope="col" width="225" \| Incorrect
			\|-
			\| [[File: Madvrosdcorrect.png\|center]] \|\| [[File: Osdincorrect.png\|center]]
			\|}


			:2. Finally, check the “Filters” list (in the right click menu of MPC-HC during playback) and confirm that LAV Video is being used:
			[[File:Filtersf.png\|center]]

RedSuisei: /* Setup guide for MPC-HC + madVR */

2011-12-01T12:29:23Z

Setup guide for MPC-HC + madVR

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	== Setup guide for MPC-HC + madVR ==		== Setup guide for MPC-HC + madVR ==

	This method will result in higher image quality and performance than using CCCP (or anything ffdshow-based, really), so if you’re struggling to play back Hi10P anime, or even regular 1080p, consider trying this. MadVR and LAV are updated regularly and uses very new versions of libav for decoding as well as custom edits to make 10-bit decoding even faster, giving it much more speed than the ridiculously outdated ffdshow-tryouts project, and the even more ridiculously outdated CCCP codec pack that is based on it.		This method will result in higher image quality and performance than using CCCP (or anything ffdshow-based, really), so if you’re struggling to play back Hi10P anime, or even regular 1080p, consider trying this. MadVR and LAV are updated regularly and uses very new versions of libav for decoding as well as custom edits to make 10-bit decoding even faster, giving it much more speed than the ridiculously outdated ffdshow-tryouts project, and the even more ridiculously outdated CCCP codec pack that is based on it.

			As of CCCP version 2011-11-11, CCCP included LAV filters as an alternative to ffdshow-tryouts.
	[[File:Lavinstall.png\|thumb\|right\|Setup - LAV Install]]		[[File:Lavinstall.png\|thumb\|right\|Setup - LAV Install]]
	=== Step Zero: Prerequisites ===		=== Step Zero: Prerequisites ===

RedSuisei: /* How NOT to play back Hi10P content */

2011-12-01T12:28:05Z

How NOT to play back Hi10P content

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	* The [http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/SVN%20builds%20by%20clsid/generic%20builds/ SVN build] of ffdshow-tryouts [http://ffdshow-tryout.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ffdshow-tryout?view=revision&revision=3954 now supports Hi10P]		* The [http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/SVN%20builds%20by%20clsid/generic%20builds/ SVN build] of ffdshow-tryouts [http://ffdshow-tryout.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ffdshow-tryout?view=revision&revision=3954 now supports Hi10P]
	* Note: Using VSFilter (aka DirectVobSub) with Hi10P requires dithering material down to 8-bit first, which can introduce some quantization inaccuracies later on and also uses incorrect levels due to a bug in swscale (when using CCCP/ffdshow or LAV to dither)		* Note: Using VSFilter (aka DirectVobSub) with Hi10P requires dithering material down to 8-bit first, which can introduce some quantization inaccuracies later on and also uses incorrect levels due to a bug in swscale (when using CCCP/ffdshow or LAV to dither)
	* However, not using VSFilter means that anamorphic releases which compensate for the stretching (e.g. 704x480 DVD releases) may give broken signs typesetting and stretched-looking subs. Two branches of VSfilter ([http://code.google.com/p/threaded-vsfilter/ threaded-vsfilter] and [http://code.google.com/p/xy-vsfilter/ xy-vsfilter]) will handle these releases correctly, and it also ~~supports~~ 10-bit input and output, meaning you don't dither using ffdshow or LAV. These two branches are still in development though , and may exhibit bugs.		* However, not using VSFilter means that anamorphic releases which compensate for the stretching (e.g. 704x480 DVD releases) may give broken signs typesetting and stretched-looking subs. Two branches of VSfilter ([http://code.google.com/p/threaded-vsfilter/ threaded-vsfilter] and [http://code.google.com/p/xy-vsfilter/ xy-vsfilter]) will handle these releases correctly, and they also support 10-bit input and output, meaning you don't dither using ffdshow or LAV. These two branches are still in development though , and may exhibit bugs.

	== Setup guide for MPC-HC + madVR ==		== Setup guide for MPC-HC + madVR ==

RedSuisei: /* How NOT to play back Hi10P content */

2011-12-01T12:27:40Z

How NOT to play back Hi10P content

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	* The [http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/SVN%20builds%20by%20clsid/generic%20builds/ SVN build] of ffdshow-tryouts [http://ffdshow-tryout.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ffdshow-tryout?view=revision&revision=3954 now supports Hi10P]		* The [http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/files/SVN%20builds%20by%20clsid/generic%20builds/ SVN build] of ffdshow-tryouts [http://ffdshow-tryout.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ffdshow-tryout?view=revision&revision=3954 now supports Hi10P]
	* Note: Using VSFilter (aka DirectVobSub) with Hi10P requires dithering material down to 8-bit first, which can introduce some quantization inaccuracies later on and also uses incorrect levels due to a bug in swscale (when using CCCP/ffdshow or LAV to dither)		* Note: Using VSFilter (aka DirectVobSub) with Hi10P requires dithering material down to 8-bit first, which can introduce some quantization inaccuracies later on and also uses incorrect levels due to a bug in swscale (when using CCCP/ffdshow or LAV to dither)
			* However, not using VSFilter means that anamorphic releases which compensate for the stretching (e.g. 704x480 DVD releases) may give broken signs typesetting and stretched-looking subs. Two branches of VSfilter ([http://code.google.com/p/threaded-vsfilter/ threaded-vsfilter] and [http://code.google.com/p/xy-vsfilter/ xy-vsfilter]) will handle these releases correctly, and it also supports 10-bit input and output, meaning you don't dither using ffdshow or LAV. These two branches are still in development though , and may exhibit bugs.

	== Setup guide for MPC-HC + madVR ==		== Setup guide for MPC-HC + madVR ==